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ABOUT ME and THIS PODCAST: I am Avinoam ("Avi") ben Mordechai. I am an old veteran of the radio broadcast industry. For me, radio programming was very different when I started in the early 1970s as a California "rock jock" radio personality and later in the 1980s as a Colorado radio programmer and secular and religious content talk show host. I selectively do live on-air radio programming where I find opportunity, but ultimately, whatever I pursue with my years of radio broadcast training is not formal. I seek to serve Yehovah with the gifts and talents that He has given to me.
Today, I am passionate about teaching the Bible in an understandable way to modern readers of ancient Scripture. The biblical studies I engage in through my teaching monologues and, in some cases, interviews with knowledgable academic researchers, are, at the very core, Hebraic studies, as I seek to connect the dots, so to speak, between the biblical Hebrew Bible and the Brit Hadasha (the New Covenant or "New Testament").
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PALEO HEBREW PICTOGRAPHS, THEIR CONCEPTS and NOTIONS (PART 2)
On today’s program, Episode 185, this is Part 2 of a continued dialogue I had with Andre Roosma of the Netherlands, discussing what is often referred to as Paleo-Hebrew.
We will discuss the Hebrew language's pictographic roots and basic notions that underlie the earliest known script of the biblical laws and narratives, delving deeper into the pictographic meanings of Hebrew as the language spoken by Abraham, Moses, and David. With today's program, we will have a look at the Hebrew letters "Heh" - ה - to "Tav" - ת, their pictographic forms and meanings.
Join me now for my discussion with Andre Roosma as we delve into the rich nuances of biblical texts, exploring their pictographic notions.
Avi coming up next. Please join us for real Israel talk radio. This is episode 185 here
Avi ben Mordechai:Welcome back to real Israel Talk Radio. I'm Avi Ben Mordechai on today's continuation from a dialog that I had with Andrei Roosmf of the Netherlands, discussing the written paleo Hebrew, which was developed from a script used approximately 1000 years before the time of we know as the block letters of the Hebrew text used during the Babylonian exile and beyond to our discussion with Andre rusma as we delve into the rich nuances of the biblical Hebrew texts based on continue with the letter. Hey, the ah, maybe a breath or Halla, what's this breathy? Hey, all
André:I think it's the most fascinating letter in all of the old Aleph beit. It's originally a and a knees bent. It is worldwide to lift your hands in the air is a symbol of surrender. Look at go up in the air. Why? Because of joy, internationally and of all ages. Hands up in the When I am in great awe, I put my hands up and I say, ah, that's just the sound of it also, ah. meaning, and that is to worship. Paul says that men should pray and worship God with their hands together, or things like that. The biblical way to pray is with your hands in the air. So it's a worship. If you put all that together, you see why a word like Hallelu is starting with this letter, or worship or whatever.
Avi ben Mordechai:How about when we do some kind of an interjection such as Aha? Now, there in the symbolizing almost the sense of maybe surprise, aha.
André:But also in Hebrew, you have still Hey, hey as a word, they all have that kind of of meaning. wondering, a wonderment, wondering, oh, what is this?
Avi ben Mordechai:You know? And this is interesting, because in modern Hebrew, the prefix serving as a definite article, the but also functioning as a question marker, okay, much like of a sentence in order to form a question. So for example, in English, we might ask the question, the letter Hey, as Haim so I find that interesting that this letter, hey, which appears at the or the definite article, hey. The key, of course, is context, where the rest of the words in the functions as a question marker or as a definite article. So let's take this into the pictograph of Hey or.
Unknown:Why? Yes, the great name is related to the old verb for "TO LIVE", the old verb for to air with in between a tent pin. We come to that in a minute. But a tent pin is something that keeps attach one piece of cloth to the next. So it's the connection in modern psychology, they say to be attached to each other, to God, to ourselves. Now two people with amazement in gladness. That is the Hebrew concept of to live, to breathe, to be so what God said to Moses about It is a symbol of awe. Ahh!, it is a symbol of surrender. I surrender. It is a symbol of worship, of course. And if you see that the persons often have bended knees in West Semitic. people worshiping God, being in awe, being surrendered, glad, and then a tent pin in between. absolutely fascinated.
Avi ben Mordechai:Have you shared these kinds of things with others. What are their responses to
André:Old people that I have explained this old verb, Hawa to and have drawn it before their eyes, about it, just like I am.
Avi ben Mordechai:And the hay also gives us this picture of a breath of breathing. It's a very
André:yeah, it's predominantly the glad version. Also the suffix Hey in Hebrew is to make something
Avi ben Mordechai:Okay, let's go on now to the connector pictograph, which is the VAV. It is a
Unknown:Many Hebrew linguists say that the VAV is a consonant, but I see in old names that it is used as a any sharp stick, for example, a stick to write on a rock with a hammer. It is also used for branch of that and their fruit on it. That's the VAV, the yacht and the Nun
Avi ben Mordechai:for the Hebrew word Ya'in or wine. So we have here in your notes, the VAV has secure attachment, a stick, an arrow, a vine, a rib, even something that which connects from A to stability, I suppose, but the idea of a connecting or connecting pin, a nail, a hook, continue on,
Unknown:well, even a bone, like when Adam saw Eve, what he said was flesh. The Hate is flesh. we just treated. So in fact, he said flesh, bone, wow. According to the Bible, that's what he said. about the word vahat for unity. That is later in Hebrew. It became wahat or Echad with an Aleph, the VAV, a pin, and then the wall, or the flesh of a tent, which is the tent wall, and then the door. rest of the tent together.
Avi ben Mordechai:It sure explains a lot about why in Biblical Hebrew, specifically, the VAV, sentence. There's 1000s of them all through the Hebrew Scriptures,
André:yes, as a connection like we say at the beginning of a sentence and this and that and
Avi ben Mordechai:Every language in the world has all these connectors all the time. Let's move on What do you have to say about the Hebrew letter Zayin, Zan or Zah? It's the seventh of the Hebrew
André:it often has to do with mowing or something like
Avi ben Mordechai:that, some kind of a hoe that cuts the grain down off of the stalk.
André:So it could be that it definitely is something of metal. It could also have to do with before metal was invented or discovered, rather, I think it might have had to do something with olive metal, it looks exactly the same from a distance. If you pour out olive oil from a container, or if looks very much like each other.
Avi ben Mordechai:Let's go back on this for a moment. So you're representing the Hebrew letter kind of feature is that what you're saying, yeah? How do you arrive at that?
André:Though, by the form of the letter as it was presented inscriptions, and by the words formed gold Yes, of course. So that's all that precious metal in it.
Avi ben Mordechai:So maybe we can say Zayin, it's used as a weapon. What's the connection to that?
André:Those weapons, all, like knives and etc, are metal. So that was one of the first uses when they found in the ground, they made spearheads, knives, skies out of it.
Avi ben Mordechai:So maybe you can give me your thoughts then on why there seems to be a Zayit...Zayit, which is an olive What's that all about?
Unknown:Design as olive oil and the shining features of it there is this Zayin also has the precious metal.
Avi ben Mordechai:So I wonder what the connection is, maybe between that and the word zonah or
André:It is making the wrong thing precious. That is what fornication is all about. Fornication is
Avi ben Mordechai:Let's go now to this pictograph of the het. And that is a sound that we do not say K, like a hard K, but it's more of the German Chaim or Bach, that kind of idea. So what is this
André:I think it is a covering tissue, a wall, an outside border, a separation of a boundary. It also our flesh, or our skin, as opposed to the bones or the intestines. So the hate is the separation from the from the outside. That would be a fate.
Avi ben Mordechai:I'm thinking of that vav Sadi, the Hebrew word, hoots. Hoots like a boundary.
André:I interpreted that as the boundary of sticks and berates or plants.
Avi ben Mordechai:Or how about the word in Hebrew? Hatza. Hatza, het Saadi, hey. Hatza in something, cutting something in two, perhaps,
Unknown:yeah, yeah. So it's again, the hate why they used the sadah. There could be sticks or honoring the boundary.
Avi ben Mordechai:I'm thinking of the word machitzsah that's used in synagogues for a boundary. How about the word HET or Cha? That's Het Tet Aleph. Hattah. That's the word for sin.
Unknown:Yes, it's the boundary, the wall, the outside of the clay basket that I interpret the me of Jesus accusing the Pharisees of focusing on the outside. So if you put the outside first what about it, then you come into hate or chata.
Avi ben Mordechai:So sin is the idea of a boundary or separation between what is acceptable acceptable, a boundary, yes, that's an aspect of it. And then how about like, the name of Eve? That
Unknown:It's like I said a moment earlier, Adam expressing his joy, flesh, bones, wow!
Avi ben Mordechai:It's a wow moment. Okay, let's go to the ninth Hebrew letter. This is the Tet or
André:I think it is associated to men's awareness of being taken out of the earth, and it can be being made out of Earth. A lot of words have to do with clay, but it can also be a basket, a basket or twisting or something like that, often is in it. Sometimes the idea of covering is in it.
Avi ben Mordechai: Second Corinthians, 4:7 Paul says, we have a treasure in earthen vessels. Yes. yeah, I think so. Like a clay container, a clay
Unknown:vessel, a clay basket.
Avi ben Mordechai:You have the Hebrew word, Tet, Lamed. Lamed: Talal. Talal a word that is to cover looking here to something that comes forth from working clay with your hand, as in a potter potter and the potter's wheel. Paul uses that reference a lot in Romans 9 or 10. He's talking forming him, why did you make me like this? The Tet is the concept of the Tet the idea of a snake
André:I don't see neither in the words or in the symbol, the original symbol. I see any any snake. actually that have been associated with snakes, and that entire fascination with snakes. I'm a bit
Avi ben Mordechai:Okay, let's go on with the Hebrew letter Yud. Or you say Yod or Yad.
Unknown:Here in Amsterdam, there used to be a very lively Jewish quarter where Yiddish was or Dutch words, a bit Hebrew-ized. In that quarter of Amsterdam, they still talk about your Jotun, Dutch, but it has got a negative meaning, the verb you are stealing... taking away something by hand. arm, which is from the elbow down to the fingers. It is used at the language as a branch, also the like that, anything that is touched a branch of a tree is also a yhat or yud.
Avi ben Mordechai:Are you saying because it's an extension of the trunk or the larger
Unknown:site branch of a river, of a trunk or whatever is a Yad.
Avi ben Mordechai:It's the smallest letter of the Hebrew Aleph Bet.
Unknown:Now it is, yes, the original was much more elaborate. It's a picture of the elbow with and in verb words. And many words, it is the giving hand.
Avi ben Mordechai:So this would give us the idea of the yode denoting like he gives, or he will
Unknown:And from that, it became to be the prefix for the third person singular in verbs, sure, but two, verse five about finding Moses by Pharaoh's daughter, she found him arm or border of the the river.
Avi ben Mordechai:Now, how does all this relate to the pictograph of the tetragrammaton? Yud, Hey.
André:we already had the word, the verb to live well, if you put in front of that great verb that worship to God. But how do we get there? Well, the name of the God of the Bible says it how we get giving hand before that verb, and you have the name of God, I find it so, so miraculous, so life. He gives joy, he gives that we surrender to him. He gives that he are connected to each other He gives it.
Avi ben Mordechai:He doesn't come across as one who takes, but one who gives
André:Right, right. And that's what often people mistake, that they have to do a lot of things for question. There are two occasions in the Gospels where Jesus cried, or three. Actually, one is when her sorrow, because he knew he would raise him from death. He just empathizes with Mary's sorrow, when we see him cry is when the people of Jerusalem refused to be consoled by him like wished so sincerely that you would have come under my wings. In fact, that is what he says. It's not He wants to give love. He wants to give joy. He wants to give life.
Avi ben Mordechai:It seems to me Andre that many religions of the world, many religions and focused on what we need to do in order to appease the God or to give him something, as though he the very essence of his name is that of he gives, not he takes.
André:It's so wonderful. It's reason to stand in awe and to surrender and to praise him.
Avi ben Mordechai:Okay, let's go on with the Hebrew letter Kaf. Now this is actually appears to
Unknown:it's quite a different hand from the Yud. The Yud is the giving hand, and the Kaf is the you are in front of a big hall of people and you want to have them quiet, what do you do? You raise authority. I swear it's the hand of blessing. So it's always the hand that has a certain authority to speak authority, things like that. Yahweh brought us forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand authority, with power. It's the hand of power. The hand goes over the crowd that is blessed.
Avi ben Mordechai:I'm Avi Ben Mordechai, and we'll return for more with Andre rusma After I radio.
Suzanne:Welcome back. To the second half of real Israel talk radio. This is episode 185 here is
Avi ben Mordechai:Welcome back to real Israel Talk Radio. I'm Avi Ben Mordechai, and I'm discussing the written language of Abraham, Moses and David, often referred to as paleo Hebrew. the basic notions that underlie the earliest biblical script of the Hebrew language. So Andre represents a hand of giving, such as in Exodus 66 when Yehovah says, I will rescue you from their outstretched arm, that's the yud. Then compare this with the pictograph of the Hebrew Kaf, which 2924 as it says. And you shall put all these in the hands of Aaron and the hands of his sons, essentially, the Yud and the Kaf pictographs represent giving and authority. Now I'm thinking from Deuteronomy, 26 verse eight, as well as many, many other places, it's expressing his power, his indeed interesting yeah, we've touched with the idea of the lamed already, about the leader or out of that.
André:We got motherly words because we where do we come from? From the amniotic fluid?
Avi ben Mordechai:Um, is that amniotic fluid. Yes, in other words, we're born out of water or
André:That's what the Bible says, and we need to be born also out of spirit. But we are basically if you have water, you have growth of plants, of animals, etc. So the riches are associated
Avi ben Mordechai:with water. If you have water, you have riches, and you have wealth and Ahm, Eeem, Eeemah, those kinds of ideas, the phoneme of the Mem, the image, the picture is that
Unknown:yes, ask an arbitrary child to draw water, and He will draw waves. It's movement of God gives.
Avi ben Mordechai: That's right, Yahm:Yud Mem. It's he gives water.
André:Everything comes out of the water. If you have water, then plants grow, etc. Everything grows out of something.
Avi ben Mordechai:So I'm thinking of Yeshayahu or Isaiah 12, three. And with joy, you shall draw
André:Yeah, great text.
Avi ben Mordechai:Okay, let's go on with the Hebrew letter nun.
André:Originally, it was a wiggling line with a little hat on one end. Now many people, especially Egyptian hieroglyphs, they say it is a snake, but I don't see a snake in it. And in the words, I seed that is germinating. The word noon has to do with new life. A lot of the early people were comes in the name of children.
Avi ben Mordechai:I'm thinking of the word Nin, noon. You'd noon, Nin. Now this is the idea of
to be linked to Luke 7:14 when Yeshua came to the village of Nain (Na'in). Here we read he touched carried him stood still. This is the son of the widow of Nain. And he said, Young man, I say to life, which again involves the son of the widow who lives in the village of Nain. And there's modern Hebrew when we are speaking or saying something and we maybe we haven't finished our say new, like, Tell me more, yeah, yeah, new, as though it's like offspring or seed that is going
André:In words, it also can mean something that looks like something else. The word needs, for blossom.
Avi ben Mordechai:I guess you could say that new related words relate to what
André:to offspring and to something that comes forth from something else.
Avi ben Mordechai:New Life is one of those things. New Life. Yes, now it is interesting. The original word was not Isha, but in sha with a nun, yeah, because in Arabic, a daughter is a Ben, like if the woman is not Isha, but in sha, just like Ben. And could it be that the noon the seed the
André:Often that occurs, yes, in words that a letter like that drops out.
Avi ben Mordechai:Perhaps a good reference would be to read Genesis 2:23, as she shall be called ISH, or man, in other words, the weakened Hebrew letter nun dropped out of INSHAH, which would called Isha or woman, thus ISH - man and Isha - woman, which is about a man and the woman who Genesis chapter three. Now this could explain the new covenant statement from First Peter three. understanding, giving honor to the woman or the wife, because they're both the same word in Hebrew together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered. So this appears to be a clear be great in God's kingdom, learn to be a servant. Thus it seems that Hebrew words involving the seed comes strength and new life, meaning we are raised up to serve and not to be served, which is the world.
André:The new as a suffix is we and our children. So it's we. It's us.
Avi ben Mordechai:The new at the end, like a suffix is that of turning it into a plural us. How
André:related we and the children that are attached to us? So it's the idea
Avi ben Mordechai:of confirming seed offspring giving
André:forth, furthering something or looking like
Avi ben Mordechai:continuing on. Okay, okay. Now I know you have a lot to say about the same it cross beams or something across it.
André:I found it very clearly, for example, on the Phoenician inscription of kilau, it is very It. Is larger than all the other letters, and it has three branches on each side and one in the life objects in nature, and I found that even in Mesopotamia, the origin of Abraham, they found those palm trees have a big stem and three branches on each side, sometimes with fruit below So I think this is a palm tree, but I see that it also has the notion of life in it. What I Mesopotamia is that the palm tree was the symbol of the tree of life. There are roll seals, and a palm tree in the middle and a snake. I think it is Genesis three that is depicted there the and the snake and Adam and Eve, which, of course, if you walk in the desert and you think you see if you see a palm tree, then you know for sure that there is water. Even if the water has and you have water. So the palm tree is the symbol of life. You see there was extensive use being they have the notion of a pole or something to undergird something else that they relate to. The Kaf is the hand of the palm tree, but it is a blessing hand, a covering hand where we rejoice in
Avi ben Mordechai:so it sounds like you're saying that the date palm, or the palm tree with its sweetness, abundance, shade covering. It's giving us many of these kinds of ideas,
Unknown:Yes, yes, and it even gave me a different interpretation of the word sinsena, the word that many words that have the same root in it are all related to palm trees. The palm tree was a symbol, stock has the same notion. The palm tree grows up straight. Other trees have side branches, etc, but leaves.
Avi ben Mordechai:So this gives us this notion of the sukkah, the booth, tabernacle pavilion, a You have protection. Many of these kinds of notions of that abundance of the palms or the life, those kinds of ideas. Yeah, there is a ladder in Hebrew sulam with a salik that's got Hence, a ladder. Now, might I bring up the Hebrew word Sana? Samich Nun, Hey, Sanah. So in Exodus, bush, or hasanneh, from Sanah was burning with fire, but the bush Hasanah was not consumed. How
Unknown:Sanah is translated as thorn bush. I think it was the crown of a palm tree,
Avi ben Mordechai:the crown of the palm tree, and not a bramble bush of some sort. Yeah, we have a Ayn. The word I in Hebrew is Ayin.
Unknown:So it's it's an eye opening. Sometimes Arabic also has the high in. It's hard to with a soft and then the AYIN is even softer. The high in is often associated with, how do you call sheath. Yeah, that's the symbol of the hyen. So it also has a hole in it, like the eye in is also the mainly of the eye to see and things like that.
Avi ben Mordechai:So. This is the idea of the good eye, the evil eye, the source of all life, fountain in Hebrew, with the attention of the eye, you can either have a good, generous eye or an it's only thinking of itself ideas of that kind of notion. Yeah, yeah. So we go to the
Unknown:Pey. The Pey is not originally a mouth. It is an opening. And the peh is the opening by nose
Avi ben Mordechai:off of in Hebrew, yeah, the nose, that's the first...
Unknown:opening. Yeah, I don't know why people insist on the original symbol of the pey being the have the mouth as the opening by which we worship, and we have the first opening, the most important it's an opening to let air flow. So I think that the old symbol of two lines next to each other is of tent cloth are separated so that the air can flow in and out.
Avi ben Mordechai:Oh, okay, let's go on and continue with the Hebrew pictograph, letter Sade,
Unknown:Sade, the original symbol, looks very much like the reed I have here in my little pond. I discovered in century old books that reeds were used for hunting, the reed stalks also to hunt.
Avi ben Mordechai:Sod is a hunting word, but it also represents ideas of a reed. I'm thinking of is a squeezing, like a juice, apple juice, orange juice. Meetz, some kind of like exuding or
André:to get paper from Papyrus, you have to squeeze it out. Egypt was the country of papyrus,
Avi ben Mordechai:Mitzraim, Mitzreim with sade, yeah, okay, the
André:country of oppression, of being pressed out. It's not called Egypt, like we talked about out,
Avi ben Mordechai:extruding, squeezing. It's used to make what they would call paper, okay? Kuf or
André:I see a lot of words where the kouf represents either some movement going up or light.
Avi ben Mordechai:KUF is the idea of a circuit of space or time revolution, seasons circling that. Yeah, let's talk about the Resh. This symbol looks like the head.
André:Yes, it's a head, but it's a head of a higher being, mostly so like we have the school, the
Avi ben Mordechai:Rosh Yeshiva, the head of the yeshiva, things like that.
André:In many cases, it is used for God. The God that makes us see was in Egypt, the idol Ra, this word for evil, it's quite significant, the
Avi ben Mordechai:one who comes forth preeminently or prominently, that kind of concept,
André:yeah, the other source of the shin. It could be that that is a source. But most words I like shad or shadim- breasts, the idea of perhaps sufficiency. I seem to think that most people drawn. It's clearly a pair of breasts.
Avi ben Mordechai:Sheen. Words in Hebrew kind of represent the idea of a well or source abundance thinking of El Shaddai, "double-breasted one," - shadim, where Paul brings out this idea when he and he starts complaining to the Almighty, and he says, My grace is sufficient for you. Is that sufficiency and abundancy of the breasts? I don't know. I mean, I'm thinking out loud here.
André:Yeah, I think that El Shaddai, it's translated in the Septuagint as being Pantocrator, there, they have made the translation Almighty, and then they have rationalized, well, we have to almighty? From Shaddai? And then they came to shaddaat. There is another verb instead of is related to the shot the breast that pours out military to the little infant. So indeed, I think
Avi ben Mordechai:So that would be an idea of sufficiency, wouldn't it?
André:That is an idea of sufficiency. Like some rabbis have said, yes,
Avi ben Mordechai:okay, we're not going to deal with the scene, because that's more of the Sade sign or the ending.
André:The mark that was put on foreheads was the Tav the cross mark,
Avi ben Mordechai:like a mark, yeah. So if the Aleph is the big one, the head the the most the ending, yeah,
André:the beginning, the biggest to the first and the completion, he will complete what he has
Avi ben Mordechai:So Yeshua identifying himself as the first and the last, the Aleph and the Tav. here? Take the word for a pattern, tavneet, Tav Beit Nun. Yud Tav. "Tavneet." You have the at the end, and in between the two marks is "benee," - "my son." ...Are you still conducting and things? Even to this day?
Unknown:I'm still but at a lower pace, and I'm becoming a little older. I'm also working on a because this has given me so much more insight in the Bible. Some things I translate different from knows Psalm 23 - "The Lord is my shepherd. I will not want." Now, what is more wonderful than to so wonderful when you read it in this old script, Yahweh is my shepherd. And then it says, Lo Hasair will not be missing." Now, if you look at the life of David, when the Prophet came to his father, I row. His father left out David. And here, David says, I will not be left out with this great out. I will not be missing. He wants me with him. How great is that he says to me, you are so want you to be there that gives the entire Psalm even more glow than the usual translation.
Avi ben Mordechai:You have been listening to Episode 185 and part two of my discussion with basic notions that underlie the earliest biblical script of the Hebrew language. If you wish to his website, hallelujah.nl. Hallelujah is, H, A L, L, E, l, U Y, A H.NL. Again, H, A, L, L, E, l, U you. I'm Avi Ben Mordechai, and this is real Israel talk radio. You.